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Making this change is not on our current roadmap. However it may be something that we consider in the future.
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I am kind of surprised that TrainingPeaks does not have this especially if they have it for biking, it should then not be that hard to add Peaks for running. Honestly for me with running in mountainous terrain all the time, using peaks for pace is horrible, obviously going down hills are always going to give very fast speeds which I would never be able to do if it was flat or at least partly normal, heartbeat would be the next best, but that has it’s delays and other issues as well. So using peaks pace is no good for the terrain I run, train, and race in. It really is useless unless power is used, because power stays the same whether it is all up hill or not or all down hill or both … it truthfully tells you if it is truly a peak or not and is not subjected to a better course or not better course … it makes all courses equal and measurable. The only way that peaks would work for me if I was looking at pace is if you compare to another run that is exact course and distance. Which I do not ever do. I truly hope TrainingPeaks would consider this because I am sure I am not the only one, there is not a flat area I train in a fifty mile radius where it is flat for more than 3/4 of a mile. For example I went on a long run from my house on an out and back run of 10 miles and the elevation gain was 1,300+ feet. During that down hill part of that run I got a peak of a 5K at 22:05 minutes and I felt it was an easy exertion. By the way, the 22:05 is only a minute and a half slower than me running an all out 5K race on a flat course. But if I look at my power during that down hill 5K part it tells me that I am going at 80% of my power FTP which is exactly what it felt like, not the 100+% of my FTP that my pace peak was at. This is totally acknowledged in the world of racing … could you imagine the New York Marathon being run in the mountains and it was all down hill. The world would not recognize it as a world record because it gives a false reading of what that person could actually do in normal terrain unless all people in the world run that exact same course. The peak for that marathon according to TrainingPeaks would be easily under the 2 hour mark, which we know is not even possible yet in any legit marathon course. That is why power needs to be in Peaks in running so it honestly reports your true peaks! So what I am saying is pace Peaks flatters people who run in my type of terrain (tells someone they are faster than what they are when going down hill) or slanders them (tells someone they are slower than what they are when going up hill). I don’t think this is what TrainingPeaks wants to do for its customers - discouraging. Thus let’s get run power up and going since it is within your capability and power so Peaks can be good for all runners no matter what their terrain and not catering to those who live in “ideal” running terrain:-)
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Yes this would be very optimal and profitable for me as a paid athlete, as I use the same workouts leading up to my three different length races that I do every year:-) I have thought this through and would like TrainingPeaks to rethink this through also. As mentioned in another similar question the Product Manager of TrainingPeaks stated, I quote "This is a feature available to coached. Currently there are no plans to add this functionality to an athlete account." What I learn from that is that TrainingPeaks has the ability to do so but have chosen to not make it available for athlete accounts. Now I don't know what the actual reasons are, it could be as simple as there are other things on their plate that they are thinking about and trying to provide for their customers? or maybe if it was offered to non-Coached accounts it could possibly be abused some how? Or maybe they want to reserve some better features for those who pay more money per month? Or maybe they think since it has to do with coaching then let this feature be for coaches in Coaching Account only? So I don't know for what reason but there obviously is a reason, if it happens to be the first two I mentioned then to me that is not a good reason. If it happens to be the last two reasons then I want you to rethink your decision based on that decision and bring it into a real world scenario: Let's take one of your most popular training-plan coaches on TrainingPeaks, Matt and Dave with 80/20 endurance, they are coaches and they have their athletes pay for their coaching services, which is all good and right. But lets' say Matt and Dave want to coach themselves do they pay for their own coaching fee? Does a coach at some highschool or college or Jeff Galloway? Certainly not, why? because they are couching themselves. Case in point - Should TrainingPeaks make this already available feature of a coach creating their own training-plans to be used by their athletes they are coaching on their paid TrainingPeaks Couch Account now be available to an athlete who wants to coach himself and make his own training-plans on his own paid TrainingPeaks Athlete Account? My answer 3 votes for Yes! You say, "Why?" Because that is the way it is in the real world and we know that TrainingPeaks is for athletes to help them and encourage them in any way they can to succeed and be the best that they can be. Please remember your roots, all coaches were athletes who were coached or coached themselves before they became coaches. It would sure be nice to have this feature also available to paying athletes who could use your help and encouragement and make things easier for them so they can spend more time doing what they were born to do - like run!
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This is a feature available to coached. Currently there are no plans to add this functionality to an athlete account.
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Votes tab does not work. Yes this would be very optimal and profitable for me as a paid athlete, as I use the same workouts leading up to my three different length races that I do every year:-) I have thought this through and would like TrainingPeaks to rethink this through also. As mentioned by the Product Manager of TrainingPeaks stated, I quote "This is a feature available to coached. Currently there are no plans to add this functionality to an athlete account." What I learn from that is that TrainingPeaks has the ability to do so but have chosen to not make it available for athlete accounts. Now I don't know what the actual reasons are, it could be as simple as there are other things on their plate that they are thinking about and trying to provide for their customers? or maybe if it was offered to non-Coached accounts it could possibly be abused some how? Or maybe they want to reserve some better features for those who pay more money per month? Or maybe they think since it has to do with coaching then let this feature be for coaches in Coaching Account only? So I don't know for what reason but there obviously is a reason, if it happens to be the first two I mentioned then to me that is not a good reason. If it happens to be the last two reasons then I want you to rethink your decision based on that decision and bring it into a real world scenario: Let's take one of your most popular training-plan coaches on TrainingPeaks, Matt and Dave with 80/20 endurance, they are coaches and they have their athletes pay for their coaching services, which is all good and right. But lets' say Matt and Dave want to coach themselves do they pay for their own coaching fee? Does a coach at some highschool or college or Jeff Galloway? Certainly not, why? because they are couching themselves. Case in point - Should TrainingPeaks make this already available feature of a coach creating their own training-plans to be used by their athletes they are coaching on their paid TrainingPeaks Couch Account now be available to an athlete who wants to coach himself and make his own training-plans on his own paid TrainingPeaks Athlete Account? My answer 3 votes for Yes! You say, "Why?" Because that is the way it is in the real world and we know that TrainingPeaks is for athletes to help them and encourage them in any way they can to succeed and be the best that they can be. Please remember your roots, all coaches were athletes who were coached or coached themselves before they became coaches. It would sure be nice to have this feature also available to paying athletes who could use your help and encouragement and make things easier for them so they can spend more time doing what they were born to do - like run!
I am shocked to find out after 140 comments since Feb. 21, 2015 and now "the future" six years later, Feb. 2021, nothing has been down yet. Even "CONSIDERED" is the tab that this has been labeled, which is past tense. So from what I can gather they are not even present tense - considering. I actually went through and read all 140 comments. This whole forum starts out with a question, How can we improve TrainingPeaks? What do you mean by that question? To what purpose? and to what end? Do you really mean it? Because from what I can gather by this string of comments alone the customer is not being heard, but in stead you have closed your eyes and turned away your ears and hardened your heart to their voice. Come now let us reason together - As I have read them, I have heard the voice of reasonable, the voice of simplicity, the voice of common sense, the voice of variety, the voice of the world gold standard, the voice of tradition, the voice of religion, the voice of race, the voice of culture, the voice of logic, the voice of liberty, the voice of business (profit for you), the voice of majority (many other platforms have it), the voice of convenience, the voice or continuity (applying training-plans and using cross platforms). the voice of frustration, anger and even threat (if you don't change then we drop you). I personally do not think that we as customers (paying or non-paying) should get everything that we stomp our pink little feet on, also "you can NOT please everybody", I also believe "keep the big things in the big thing pile and the little things in the little things pile." Therefore, I would not threaten you, knowing that TrainingPeaks is a very valuable and helpful tool for me and will continue to be. BUT, little things do matter and they can turn into big things. Little things tell and show your customers you do really care. Ask any wife who had a husband who did NOT forget their wedding anniversary. If he did forget that little thing to him, it turns into a big thing for her and in turn a big thing for him and it's his loss! I am not sure if this nobody can make a difference in what seems to be a hopeless cause but I am reminded that whether they will hear or whether they will forbear that they may know that a voice has been given. I am going to try to appeal to you through another man's voice since I think it would have more of an impact on you than mine. It is the voice of Eric Liddell, you know him as the "Chariots of Fire" inspiration and gold olympic medalist. But I know him as a God fearing man and who believed himself to be created by God for His pleasure, not his own. Many say it was his personal conviction to not run on Sunday and that may be true in and of itself but I believe it went much deeper than that, you see it was a principal that he believed from the Bible. Now don't get all nervous and defensive ... it's a simple fact that Eric believed in and thus played out in his life and I am going to explain it to and you will see how this relates very much to this topic on this forum. Eric believed a book, called the Holy Bible, he believed it to be God's words to him and not man's. In Genesis the first book of that Bible Eric believed God'd first day of creation was Sunday, the first day, SUNday God said let there be LIGHT, he then believed that after six days of work God rested from His work on the seventh day, which would be Saturday. It just so happens FRIday then SATurday is spelled that way - when a man is “FRIed" from his work he sits down and rests. Eric also believed the scriptures about Jesus, the Son of God, rising (like the Sun) from the dead on the first day of the week - SUNday, which again is after the jewish sabbath day rest which is Friday 6pm evening to Saturday 6pm evening. Eric also believed what Jesus said about himself, "I am the Light of the world". You see the pattern that was set by Eric's God, Saviour, and Creator you then would understand why Sunday was the first day of the week to Eric; but it does not end there Eric feared God more than man, so when God said in the first of the ten commandments, "Thou shalt have nor other gods before me" and that in the new testament he was commanded to give God preeminence (first place) in all things. So that is why Eric Liddell would not run on Sunday, and if he ran the race on Sunday he felt deeply that he would not be giving God first place and in turn putting sports before God which would then in turn make sports his "god". Now I hope you can see where I am going with all this, Sunday has since the beginning of time been the first day of the week and the God who created you and gives you all things richly to enjoy set the pattern and principal to live by. No one is telling you that you have to change everything, just be considerate and show them you really do care and give your customers the ability to choose whatever day of week they want to set their week by, including Eric Liddell if he were here today.